Nintendo’s legendary designer Shigeru Miyamoto has revealed in a new interview that the Kyoto-based company aims to have one 30+ million selling piece of software every three to five years. Nintendo has had four games on the Switch that has passed that threshold since the system launched in March 2017. Those games are Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (61.97 million) Animal Crossing: New Horizons (45.36 million) Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (34.22 million) The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (31.85 million) Shigesato Itoi, who was also part of the interview chimed in saying “when Miyamoto-san is working on a project, he can assess it on a scale like. This one can aim for 30 million copies or this one will probably sell about 480,000 copies. It’s not that he knows it clearly, but he has to think on that scale.”