Updated Everton were said to be favourites to land Jaden Philogene from Hull City, with the clubs reportedly agreeing a fee in the region of £16m but the Blues are refusing to engage in a bidding war.
The clubs were reportedly in talks but they were complicated when Aston Villa entered the mix and it now appears that after telling Everton that Goodison Park was his preferred destination, the winger now has his heart set on Ipswich Town after all.
After his agent performed a bizarre Peter Odemwingie-style stunt last week by turning up in Barcelona hoping to force through a deal with the Spanish giants (Barcelona claimed not to know who he was), Philogene looked set to move to Portman Road in a double move along with Jacob Reeves.
The newly-promoted Tractor Boys had reportedly struck a £35m deal with Hull for the pair, despite the player apparently wanting to join Everton.
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Following suggestions from the Daily Mail and TeamTalk that Philogene had told the Toffees as much, the likes of Paul Joyce in the The Times and Alan Myers of Sky Sports reported earlier today that Everton had submitted a formal bid to Hull and that he could end up on Merseyside after all.
That now appears unlikely, with many of the same outlets claiming that Philogene wants the Ipswich move after all and The Athletic say he is set to undergo a medical ahead of a £15m transfer that includes a further £5m in add-ons.
Kevin Thelwell is said to value Philogene at around £15m and was reluctant to go higher than that, hence reports yesterday that he could switch his attention to Watford winger Yaser Asprilla for a similar price.
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Paul Hewitt
1 Posted
08/07/2024 at
20:24:19
Apparently he’s going to Ipswich.
Les Moorcroft
2 Posted
08/07/2024 at
20:28:06
If they have agreed a price, why switch their attention?
Gavin Johnson
3 Posted
08/07/2024 at
20:47:45
I think Alan Myers has also said that no concrete offer has been made.
I would imagine we are skint until we sell someone.
Michael Lynch
4 Posted
08/07/2024 at
21:36:05
Only 20, but decent strength and balance on the ball. Squad player maybe, but worth having.
Derek Knox
6 Posted
08/07/2024 at
21:49:24
Michael @ 4, I have read too that Asprilla may be the better option, but again we are hampered by finances at present, and our relationship with Watford… “I guess that’s why they call it (us) the Blues” 🙂
Robert Tressell
7 Posted
08/07/2024 at
21:50:41
I suspect that we might get priced out of the move for Philogene – by Ipswich FFS who have already spent £20M on Omari Hutchison.
Tom Bowers
8 Posted
08/07/2024 at
22:41:55
Easy to pick out a special moment and we have seen that in so many players who flop later – especially when they come to Everton.
Anyone remember a fantastic goal by Micky Walsh seen on the box (before YouTube) then he flopped at Everton?
Ben King
9 Posted
08/07/2024 at
23:07:33
What’s the problem with our relationship with Watford?
I know they were upset we took Silva but we sorted compensation and have subsequently dealt with them twice more (Richarlison and Doucouré)…. what’s the issue you allude to?
David McMullen
10 Posted
08/07/2024 at
23:27:26
I don’t believe any of these until the player is tweeted by the club or one of its minions.
Lester Yip
11 Posted
09/07/2024 at
00:12:37
But it seems we’re still playing safe by buying locally from lower divisions where prices are already inflated. I would love to see us unearthing gems from overseas lower leagues.
Mike Gaynes
12 Posted
09/07/2024 at
00:27:59
Ipswich doesn’t deserve the FFS. Two straight promotions deserves respect. They’re the real thing.
Mike Corcoran
13 Posted
09/07/2024 at
01:54:16
Phylogene looks amazing, yeah YouTube and all that… but.
Frank Wolfe
14 Posted
09/07/2024 at
04:13:06
Agreed. Ipswich also have a top manager in Kieran McKenna.
Peter Gorman
15 Posted
09/07/2024 at
07:17:49
But totally agree that they are a side to watch and have a manager we should maybe covet.
I reckon they’ll repeat the story of their last top-flight adventure and qualify for Europe before getting relegated the following season.
Sam Hoare
16 Posted
09/07/2024 at
07:18:00
I’m curious and worried that we don’t seem to be chasing a right-back currently. Does Dyche intend to start Young or Coleman or Patterson there? Neither seem ideal as first pick and I would have thought it a priority position to re-inforce.
Robert Tressell
17 Posted
09/07/2024 at
07:37:03
In fact, their net spend over the past few years is about €30M compared to us at break-even. Obviously that’s a bit skewed but illustrates just how heavy our cost-cutting has been since Moshiri pulled the plug in 2020.
Tony Abrahams
18 Posted
09/07/2024 at
07:47:13
The mismanagement of Everton Football Club has been truly horrific; you only have to look at the the club’s overall wage bill to realise that Moshiri chose an unsustainable path.
Hopefully we have already hit the floor and have already begun to slowly bounce back again with a well thought-out plan that is going to be guided by total professionalism.
Steve Shave
19 Posted
09/07/2024 at
08:04:32
They are well backed financially with a solid fan base in the fastest growing town in England. The football has been electric at times, especially given his squad quality compared to their competitors.
In order for them to keep McKenna from Utd and Brighton they have obviously promised him a proper run at the PL with some financial backing.
I hope they do well, I don’t want McKenna at Utd as I think he will get them back to where they feel they belong, he is a Utd fan and has worked in the backroom there previously.
As for Philogene, he looks very promising but as Sam the man said, i’d be really happy with either him or Asprilla, both of whom i believe have what it takes. I’m leaning a little towards Asprilla as Philogene clearly has a twat of an agent, hopefully that is not an extension of his own self importance.
Danny O’Neill
20 Posted
09/07/2024 at
08:36:10
I spent a lot of time in Dorset at Blandford.
It will be interesting to see how long Manchester United stick with Ten Hag. I wanted him for Everton at the time. Coming from Ajax, he’s probably more used to dealing with and developing young players as opposed to big egos. And he could have brought Pienaar with him to Finch Farm!
It will also be interesting to see how the Dutch guy gets on following in Klopp’s shoes. It is a bit like those who tried to replace Ferguson at United. I wonder if Klopp is waiting for the German national position? That would free up Nagelsman, who is a talented young coach.
I think Sean Dyche is probably one of the safest at the moment, but football never ceases to amaze. He done a great job keeping the team focussed when the circus was going on around them. He’s got my respect. He was the only voice of the club most of the time.
Ben King
21 Posted
09/07/2024 at
10:01:56
Agree: Dyche has done an incredible job, all things considered.
Michael Lynch
22 Posted
09/07/2024 at
10:24:29
BBC saying we’ve agreed to sign Philogene from Hull.
Steve Brown
23 Posted
09/07/2024 at
10:30:21
Despite their progress, I think they will do brilliantly to survive their first season after promotion.
Ultimately, his agent may influence Philogene towards Ipswich, and the Hull Chairman said that they are in pole position (not Everton). But, if I was a player and my agent advised me to choose a newly promoted side over an established Premier League side, I would sack him.
Sam Hoare
24 Posted
09/07/2024 at
10:31:45
Could be a great signing for around £16M; he works hard and has genuine pace and flare to beat a man and open up space which is something we lacked last season.
Only 22 so lots of room to improve and has the work rate to make it in a Dyche team. Fingers crossed.
Steve Brown
25 Posted
09/07/2024 at
10:35:37
I am amazed that anyone would claim that Dyche did anything other than a fantastic job last season.
Two separate points deductions, limited investment in the squad, having to front the club’s response to massive off-the-field challenges given the board had disappeared — no manager to my mind has faced such a challenging set of circumstances.
Dave Abrahams
26 Posted
09/07/2024 at
10:57:01
What a waste Moshiri’s money has been under the boardroom run by Billy Boy and his hand-picked cronies, we can only dream of where we would be now!
Paul Hewitt
27 Posted
09/07/2024 at
11:04:11
He’s at Finch Farm.
Brian Williams
28 Posted
09/07/2024 at
11:12:29
Nicholas Ryan
29 Posted
09/07/2024 at
11:21:20
The lad is saying Everton is his preferred destination. I think it is very easy to undervalue the importance of a player wanting to come.
Brian Williams
30 Posted
09/07/2024 at
11:26:14
That’s if you can believe that particular report, Nicholas.
Sam Hoare
31 Posted
09/07/2024 at
11:29:44
If Everton match that bid then he will likely come to us. It depends on whether we can agree a deal with Hull. Could go either way but I’m sure there are other wingers we are considering too (like Asprilla potentially).
Phillip Warrington
32 Posted
09/07/2024 at
11:47:01
I’m starting to get excited by the signings so far… for the first time in a long time. I think for the club in its current position, these players will be good buys, and finally players who are young and hungry.
Jack Convery
33 Posted
09/07/2024 at
12:28:12
That pathetic stunt they pulled at Barcelona was laughable. Barca said they didn’t even know who Philogene was and told his agent to sling his hook. They wanted to take photos outside Barca to convince others Barca wanted him.
I trust the BBC report as I doubt Phil McNulty would allow such a report if it wasn’t true.
Annika Herbert
34 Posted
09/07/2024 at
12:37:11
They will also be the real deal when they are relegated at the end of the next season.
Michael Lynch
35 Posted
09/07/2024 at
12:53:04
I think Philogene’s agent and Asprilla’s agent should play Rock, Paper, Scissors outside the Winslow to see who gets to sign for Everton.
Sam Hoare
36 Posted
09/07/2024 at
12:56:49
Contrasting reports from usually reliable sources may indicate that his agent is playing games and trying to drive up the prices!
Steve Brown
37 Posted
09/07/2024 at
13:02:41
He must think the Championship is his long-term spiritual home.
Paul Hewitt
38 Posted
09/07/2024 at
13:56:49
I’d walk away now. Must be other players available.
John Raftery
39 Posted
09/07/2024 at
14:36:35
Thelwell has a valuation and is sticking to it. Good.
It was a pity the club did not adopt that approach when chasing Sigurdsson, a player arguably worth £20M. We ended up paying £45M after the selling club kept raising the price.
Jay Harris
40 Posted
09/07/2024 at
14:39:36
Form – Ormstein has the most credibility (unfortunately) so unless we pull a rabbit out of the hat and/or Villa invoke their option by 10 July, it looks like he is going to the Tractor Boys.
Sean Kearns
41 Posted
09/07/2024 at
14:51:28
This lad looks great I hope we get him… someone with a bit of the X-Factor is what we need. Dare I say a Maverick…
I can’t wait to get a glimpse of Ndiaye in pre-season.
Paul Hewitt
42 Posted
09/07/2024 at
14:53:21
Looks to me like Ipswich are paying a bigger agents fee.
Pat Kelly
43 Posted
09/07/2024 at
14:54:28
Spurs have just signed him.
Colin Glassar
44 Posted
09/07/2024 at
14:56:06
As the old saying goes, “Until I see him with an Everton….”
Professional bullshitters like Myers, Wyness, Romano, Bobble etc…should be avoided at all costs. It is fun though and this kid will be off next summer after Ipswich are relegated.
Michael Lynch
46 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:15:38
Well, actually I’ve no idea who his agent is, but he can’t be as big a prick as Philogene’s.
Andy Crooks
47 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:17:36
We are in the market for promising players hoping to strike lucky. Or for players no one else wants.
Michael Lynch
48 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:22:12
We’ll end up with Bolasie on loan, won’t we?
Brian Temple
49 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:22:24
In fact, many of the Tractor Boys don’t think he’s going to sign for them and will come to us instead.
Soren Moyer
50 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:35:51
They just changed it to “Ipswich agree deal for Hull’s Philogene”.
Les Moorcroft
51 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:45:17
Well sign or fuck off. Move on.
Jack Convery
52 Posted
09/07/2024 at
15:55:42
Anyway it looks like he’s got an R Sole for an Agent and Thelwell has called his bluff. Villa have also put a spoke in the wheels for whatever reason.
So bye-bye Philogene and Hello whoever. We still have Ashley Young don’t forget.
Danny O’Neill
53 Posted
09/07/2024 at
16:01:17
Stand our ground.
Brian Williams
54 Posted
09/07/2024 at
16:18:14
Having said that, some ToffeeWebbers will still go berszykwkak over something some spotty 17-year-old has posted on Goodison News! 😉
David West
55 Posted
09/07/2024 at
16:38:00
A player has a value to us and, just because another club wants them, doesn’t increase their value to us.
Ipswich are looking to boost their sqaud and may need to pay over the odds and bigger wages to attract players but that’s how you end up paying £25M for Bolasie or £27M Klaassen and, if it doesn’t work out, you are stuck with an overpriced player.
Move on, if he’d rather go to Ipswich then more fool him.
Tony McNulty
56 Posted
09/07/2024 at
16:44:11
He told me three months ago that Asprilla was in the Richarlison class.
Soren Moyer
57 Posted
09/07/2024 at
16:45:34
Jack,
You’re forgiven, matey 😁.
Stu Darlington
58 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:04:02
Not knocking Ipswich’s achievements but, if this lad thinks their long-term prospects in the Premier League are better than ours, then he obviously hasn’t got much up top.
Move on. Next Please!!
Colin Glassar
59 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:19:30
Maybe we will get Riquelme this time.
Jonathan Tasker
60 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:25:08
What does it say about Everton that a player of his potential prefers Ipswich? We used to be Big 5.
Piero Bohoslawec
61 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:34:56
I see Ipswich are also chasing the young Man City striker Liam Delap, who was having an excellent timeon loan at Hull last season until injury ended his spell there.
He is the sort of player I’d love us to secure and bed in as a potential replacement for Calvert-Lewin if he were to leave on a free next year.
Si Pulford
62 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:35:43
He may have the promise of more minutes at Ipswich than Dyche will allow him here. Which would say the player is interested in playing and developing.
It could also be a bigger signing-on fee or wages, which would say he’s greedy… lol
Bottom line is we don’t know the player’s motivation but just because a player chooses another club isn’t always a bad reflection on us.
Kieran Kinsella
63 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:37:01
Maybe he really likes being on the Eastern Coast. Maybe he is also thinking he might be an automatic starter for Ipswich versus competing for a spot at Everton?
Either way, as The Extreme song goes, “Mr Philogene if you don’t like what you see here, get the funk out!”
Billy Shears
64 Posted
09/07/2024 at
17:45:23
Let him go to Ipswich. When they go down, he just may see the error of his ways!
Kudos to Thelwell – keep looking for bargains.
David West
65 Posted
09/07/2024 at
18:45:47
My masseuse, who is a Besiktas season ticket holder, told me Cenk Tosun is good enough to play for Real Madrid and £100k a week is cheap for the Turkish Haaland.
Jay Harris
66 Posted
09/07/2024 at
18:50:44
Midfield can wait until and if Onana goes. There appear to be a number of tricky wingers available but we want players who want to play for the shirt not the money.
John Graham
67 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:00:29
We need to make our own valuation of players and stick to it.
Asprilla also looks a good prospect and he’s 2 years younger.
As long as we have a plan on the type of players we want that’s all that matters. It’s always a gamble.
Mike Gaynes
68 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:03:05
The infant’s name: Lamine Yamal.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/09/lionel-messi-lamine-yamal-baby-photos-spain?utm_term=668d2eb2172960530900f038d5e218ed&utm_campaign=TheFiver&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=fiver_email
Ian Bennett
69 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:27:33
If that’s the case, then walk away. Anyone who favours ipswich over Everton clearly has no ambition.
Derek Knox
70 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:35:56
Mike G, any chance Messi could come and bathe a few of our squad ? 🙂
Bill Gall
71 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:42:49
He may have stood out in the championship last season but a jump up into the premier league is no walk in the park and there are other potential players that have moved up 1or2 divisions and failed.
We had a squad that finished mid table excluding the points deduction. and yes we need upgrades, but there must be better than potentials for the same asking price.
Paul Ferry
72 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:47:05
Paul Hewitt 27: He’s at Finch Farm.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gordon White
73 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:50:02
Should want to play for us for the right reasons. The more you read about this, the more it sounds like a saga. If he wants Ipswich, good luck to him, and them. Incidentally, it will be interesting to see how these newly promoted teams manage PSR.
We need to walk away if it becomes a contrived bidding war. There’s other fish in the sea.
COYBs.
Mike Hayes
74 Posted
09/07/2024 at
19:57:00
Must be desperate for championship football 🥳
Dave Abrahams
75 Posted
09/07/2024 at
20:05:33
I didnt know you and him went to De La Salle, when did you go there, I went from 1952-57, a bit before your time there maybe. The one in Carr Lane East was opened in about 1954 my third year there.
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